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The return of Mutually Assured Destruction

Fri Nov 9, 2007 1:16 PM EST
politics, iran, iraq, pakistan, nuclear, proliferation
By Smiling Jack

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Do you remember MAD? Back when President Reagan was President, and the Soviet Union developed sufficient nuclear force to destroy the planet, we described our strategy for saving the world. And it was called Mutually Assured Destruction, or MAD for short.

According to MAD, the only thing that protected us from nuclear destruction, was the threat of nuclear destruction. They wouldn't launch their missiles to destroy us, because in the time it took for their nukes to reach us, we would launch ours and they would die with us.

And of course, they said the same of us.

It began with the Cuban missile crisis, and lasted for decades, and every once in awhile you'd see a doomsday movie come out which reflected the darkest nightmares of the time; that someone in a missile silo went nuts, or got control of a nuclear submarine and launched a missile.

And of course, if that ever happened, MAD would make a terrible incident even worse. Instead of one nuclear weapon killing millions, the retaliation would kill literally billions. Perhaps all humanity would die.

And then finally the Soviet Union collapsed, and everyone's fear of that one lunatic able to overcome the system and launch a nuke, or just steal one subsided. But it probably shouldn't have, because various idiots in the Soviet Union decided the best way to make a little spare cash was by selling nukes out the back door to anyone who would buy them.

But the US breathed a sigh of relief, content to be the only superpower left in the world.

It's a MAD, MAD world.

And now, though most haven't noticed, MAD is returning in a new, even more dangerous form. It's not going at full speed yet, but we are almost there.

Now we are told that both Iran and Korea is developing nuclear technology, and a substantial portion of the population thinks dealing with Iran with massive force is a good idea. And even as this problem unfolds, we have another as Pakistan finds its constitution suspended, another country with nuclear weapons which may become unfriendly.

While the headlines have been talking about these three countries, how many others are developing nuclear weapons? Let's forget the headlines. If you were a developing country, and you didn't have nuclear weapons, would you want them?

The new game of MAD involves a new sort of deviant psychology. In the old one both powers had nuclear weapons, each presuming the other wouldn't be so stupid as to attack. The new form makes the old seem positively sane. After all, once you have a half dozen different small countries entering the mix, the odds of one of them being too stupid to realize that they are not actually supposed to use the weapons increases geometrically.

Meanwhile, we scurry about trying to make certain that only people we like have nuclear technology, and the way that we do this guarantees that whoever finally gets them will view us as some sort of ogre. So our means of preventing problems is one that might help our security for a year or two, but is almost guaranteed to eventually lead to disaster.

Recently when discussing Iran, I've listened to people say, "We'll surely if they are responsible they will allow us to let us into their country to look for weapons."

We sent inspectors into Iraq. We were even guaranteed the existence of WMD's. If Iraq teaches the world anything, it's that we are not to be trusted. We will look into all the dark corners of the earth and see weapons of mass destruction, even when they do not really exist. The rest of the world has become quite aware of our paranoia.

Every time that we act against any one of the smaller developing countries, we make every other country developing it's own weapons nervous as well. In a sense, it becomes their best interest to see it to that we don't act against other countries developing nuclear capability.

It has always been easier to destroy, then to create. And strangely, our own increasing technology coupled with the same fears which we have always had, encourage us to make war. In the early 1900s we were secure that anyone who wished to make war on us had to sail across the ocean. Today, weapons of war are not so limited.

And so, we watch as they build factories and make assumptions about what they are for. And if it might be used against us, some of us want to lash out with violence. The simple existence of a weapon is enough to create the desire for war. How fortunate we were to develop them first.

Our feeling of insecurity creates in us the desire to do evil. And whether we were right to fear them or not, inevitably war must result from a world view that is based on fear.

As our technology increases, we need to move beyond the thinking of yesterday which permanently put us at one another's throats. The neoconservative philosophy which has motivated recent policies is as incapable of looking ahead as it is to remember our history, reacting to each crisis of the moment and shrilly announcing that every new threat must be crushed underfoot.

This new era of development doesn't need to be tragic. We can increase our powers, feed more people with less land, revolutionize medicine. But for the era of nuclear proliferation to be a positive one, we must stop simply looking at what is around us, and look ahead of us.

Technology cannot be neatly packaged into that which can be used offensively, and that which cannot. Any nation which develops industrially will ultimately be capable of building missiles and placing warheads on them. We can try to keep our foot on the throat of the developing world and ensure that they hate us, and perhaps put off the inevitable for a few short years.

Or we can back away and allow the hatred we have recently fostered to begin to die out. Perhaps in time we can build new positive relationships, and when the rest of the world has caught up with our industry we will not find the world such a frightening place.

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Smiling Jack

What made me most want to write this article is the sense that I've gotten recently that the US has come to view itself in a way that almost guarantees we will be in some sort of face off with the East. There are a lot of people who view everything in a west versus east sort of way. We have to do something to curb that.

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Reply#1 - Fri Nov 9, 2007 1:32 PM EST
Smiling Jack

I wish this had gotten more attention, I really believe this is something we need to start thinking about.

I watched a movie called "Other People's Money' once, and a corporate raider was talking to this woman. He disparaged all lawyers, and she said, "If you hate them so much, why do you employ a team of them?" And he said, "Lawyers are like nuclear weapons, they have em, so we gotta have me."

I loved that quote. Nobody really wants to live like this, but we are sure we have to. Can't we do better then this?

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:47 AM EST
gpnavonod

Nobody really wants to live like this, but we are sure we have to. Can't we do better then this?

He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.
Albert Einstein

Some good advice for "good Americans"

  • 1 vote
Reply#3 - Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:44 AM EST
Attila911

Smiling Jack,
As you said..."The new game of MAD involves a new sort of deviant psychology" If an Islamic country, whose government is at risk of being overthrown, and this government possesses nuclear weapons, then GOD save us all! People who put so little value on human life, and are willing to kill and gladly offer themselves up to dying in the belief that they will go immediately to some imaginary whorehouse in the sky, we who value life and freedom are going to be in a world of hurt! I say forced inspections be implemented and at the time and pace chosen by the N.R.C How does the great pumpkin see this scenario?
Attila911

    Reply#4 - Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:42 PM EST
    Smiling Jack

    I say that forced inspections will lead to exactly what I'm afraid of.

    One thing about inspections, is that they are always questionable in the first place. Your sending a group of inspectors into somebody else's country. They know your coming, they generally know when, and they are capable of moving what your looking for. It's their country, not yours, and the people your talking to are beholden to the leadership of their country.

    And if you send in inspectors and you think their hiding something, what then? We've already completely blown it in Iraq, sending in inspectors on two occasions, concluding wrongfully that they had what we were afraid of. Having already said their were WMD's and found that we were wrong, what happens if we do inspections again, and say exactly the same thing?

    Naturally the response is, "Yeah, you guys always see WMDs don't you?" It's an appropriate answer.

    We really need to get our head out of our collective asses at this point, we don't have the credibility for this sort of thing anymore.

    • 2 votes
    #4.1 - Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:24 PM EST
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    gpnavonod

    Attila911
    @Smiling Jack,
    As you said..."The new game of MAD involves a new sort of deviant psychology" If an Islamic country, whose government is at risk of being overthrown, and this government possesses nuclear weapons, then GOD save us all! People who put so little value on human life, and are willing to kill and gladly offer themselves up to dying in the belief that they will go immediately to some imaginary whorehouse in the sky, we who value life and freedom are going to be in a world of hurt! I say forced inspections be implemented and at the time and pace chosen by the N.R.C How does the great pumpkin see this scenario?
    Attila911

    Lol- At risk of being overthrown?....... By whom?
    If an insider [Civil war ] What good would atomic bombs be?

    You must mean an outsider? ....Who has no business interfering in the first place.
    Yes, ....that's what you really mean ...isn't it?
    Yes ...you want certain countries on your "goody list" ....to control the internal politics of the weaker countries.
    You think your "Morally Superior" ......Don't you?

    What a chutzpah you have!

    • 2 votes
    Reply#5 - Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:56 AM EST
    Attila911

    Who said anything about being "overthrown?" I think you may have been responding to some other posting, but I'll say this>>>>>>>There is a "goody" list as far as countries who have their personal freedoms threatened. Islam has sought to spread their murderous, brainwashing cult, (they call it a religion) since Muhammad rode from Mecca to Medina, and those who believe that some imaginary MOON-GOD should be the basis for all things on earth are not on it! And the term is "You have chutzpah!" not "you have 'a' chutzpah" knucklehead!

      #5.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:34 AM EST
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